I have lost my enthusiasm

[Rob]

Hi all,

Just a quick note to say that i am now getting very tired and bored of this tit for tat Bull SH%T that is going on within these pages, even to the point that i have felt embarressed to be an admin of these pages when reading through some posts. This community used to be one of support and friendship NO matter what your standing point was. I now think people forget that we all come to these creations with different standing points, and that there are real people behind the posts.

If being an admin means i have to read through it all and have my heart blackened with all this negativity then maybe im not suited anymore

So I will leave these pages for you all and i shall just keep the music live and leave the endless discussions to others.

Panart are panart, pantheon are pantheon, bellart is bellart and i am Rob, all of which are happy in themselves, and i am happy to leave it that way.

Rx

[Sounds-Like-Me]

Sad news ! but I can totally sympathise with you my friend !
I have been wondering if its rely worth it to log in only to have a quick scan of the posts (hardly bother to really read them) just to mark them as read.
I have said it before but will say again. The demise of Hang-music was a very sad day.
Also the people who were involved in "the big split" have the most curious habit of coming back to poison the atmosphere here with there, dare I say, dogmatic mind sets. What is that about ? Are they so lonely over there behind the wall" ?

[rptalk2me]

Hi all,

Just a quick note to say that i am now getting very tired and bored of this tit for tat Bull SH%T that is going on within these pages, even to the point that i have felt embarressed to be an admin of these pages when reading through some posts. This community used to be one of support and friendship NO matter what your standing point was. I now think people forget that we all come to these creations with different standing points, and that there are real people behind the posts.

If being an admin means i have to read through it all and have my heart blackened with all this negativity then maybe im not suited anymore

So I will leave these pages for you all and i shall just keep the music live and leave the endless discussions to others.

Panart are panart, pantheon are pantheon, bellart is bellart and i am Rob, all of which are happy in themselves, and i am happy to leave it that way.

Rx

Thanks for all of your hard work Rob. You will be sorely missed.

Does this mean they have accomplished their goal? They win?

[Imagineye]

Rob my friend, all will be well.

Take a breather. Step away and clear the head.

There are very interesting revelations and other surprises coming soon for this community. Some may cause a stir, while most, I hope will bring an undeniable voice of reason to our community and perhaps even result in some unification.

All communities go through chaos and change. It is the nature of things. We are human and prone to conflicts of opinions.

We can all trudge through this and all benefit in the end. I really don't see why we can't now.

All should let go of what their pre-conceived notions of a Hang, HandPan or Steel Pan, or even tongue drum is at this point. This artform is way too young to be drawing such staunch opinions and lines over. At this point, we should either decide to stay true to our paths, or embrace the inevitable changes that occur, especially with something so young that has soooo much passion attached to it.

This story, the story of steel, is far from over. And we have yet to see all of the cast. No one is right or wrong at this point. Everyone can maintain their beliefs and still be right. And everyone could be completely wrong! But, does it matter? 99.9% of us are enthusiasts at best. Only 0.01% actually can claim any direct action in the development of this artform. We are mostly spectators, with varying opinions on what the creators make. Let's keep that in perspective, shall we?

To clarify, let's remember who is creating, and who is critiquing, and who it really matters to in the grand scheme of things.

The key is positive participation and active listening, to help our community grow in a positive direction.

We are infants in this art. Yet, we can guide perceptions and feelings too easily in regards to easily being in our positions. We must be responsible stewards for this artform.

Open........ and responsible stewards.

I hope Rob, that your love can be re-kindled. Your voice was one of the first I heard in this community, I would hate to not hear it anymore, here. Follow your heart, and know that nothing is permanent. Everything is in a constant state of change.

But change keeps us from stagnation.

All will be well, my friend.

[kiwidreamer]

[Spike]

This is a sad day...

I still feel that is what the "BAN" option is for.
You should not have to sit back and put up with people coming to this forum attacking other members.
Attack = warn.
Attack again = Ban.
Spam = Ban.
Simple.

The members will respect this..

Maybe its time for a TOS.(Terms of Service)

A starter:

Handpan.org Terms of Service

Handpan.org's Mission is to create a thriving, productive environment that encourages an atmosphere of community, respect, collaboration.

As a member/user of Handpan.org, it is your responsibility to know, and adhere to the Terms of Service. Handpan.org reserves the right to change, alter or modify the Terms of Service as needed. All postings, past and present are subject to the most current terms of service.

Member/User Conduct:

Members and users are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that is constructive and respectful of others at all times. Additionally, we hope that each member/user will work to facilitate a culture of collaboration and positive reinforcement, so we can all share our passion for music while developing our personal ambitions, and friendships.

Members/Users will not use this community for:

Any practices that affect the normal operations of the community (Admins will take whatever steps are necessary to restore service).

* Transmitting any libelous, defamatory, or any other material that could give rise to any civil or criminal liability under the law.

* Personal attacks. This includes but is not limited to, destructive, abusive, defamatory communications in any form, and retaliatory attacks from personal attacks. If you need assistance, please communicate with someone from our Handpan.org Team.

* Destructive commentary/communications made with the intent to disrupt or attack (Trolling). This applies to any communications within this community, whether in the forums or PM.

* Advertising or linking to any publications and/or web sites that are sexually explicit , and/or pornographic in nature.

Violations:

Members that violate the rules above will be notified by a member of the Handpan.org team. Warnings will be noted in the member's record. Continual violation of the rules will result in a temporary ban. Habitual rule violations can result in a permanent ban.



Conduct - Zero Tolerance ;
Handpan.org maintains a Zero Tolerance on certain behaviors within the community. These include, but are not limited to the following.

* Any threats of physical harm, property damage or acts of violence toward another individual, or group of individuals.

* Intentional practices that affect the normal operations of the community (Admins will take whatever steps are necessary to restore service).

* Any member found to be impersonating a moderator or Admin of Handpan.org will have his/her membership revoked.

Members/Users found practicing these behaviors will immediately have their membership revoked, and access to the community permanently blocked from the community including any duplicate accounts for the same person. HandPan.org considers this information private and confidential. However, there may be certain situations that necessitate otherwise. The appropriate legal authorities will be contacted, and if appropriate charges may be filed.



Just for starters......

[levinson.victor]

This is a sad day...

I still feel that is what the "BAN" option is for.
You should not have to sit back and put up with people coming to this forum attacking other members.
Attack = warn.
Attack again = Ban.
Spam = Ban.
Simple.

The members will respect this..

Maybe its time for a TOS.(Terms of Service)

A starter:

Handpan.org Terms of Service

Handpan.org's Mission is to create a thriving, productive environment that encourages an atmosphere of community, respect, collaboration.

As a member/user of Handpan.org, it is your responsibility to know, and adhere to the Terms of Service. Handpan.org reserves the right to change, alter or modify the Terms of Service as needed. All postings, past and present are subject to the most current terms of service.

Member/User Conduct:

Members and users are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that is constructive and respectful of others at all times. Additionally, we hope that each member/user will work to facilitate a culture of collaboration and positive reinforcement, so we can all share our passion for music while developing our personal ambitions, and friendships.

Members/Users will not use this community for:

Any practices that affect the normal operations of the community (Admins will take whatever steps are necessary to restore service).

* Transmitting any libelous, defamatory, or any other material that could give rise to any civil or criminal liability under the law.

* Personal attacks. This includes but is not limited to, destructive, abusive, defamatory communications in any form, and retaliatory attacks from personal attacks. If you need assistance, please communicate with someone from our Handpan.org Team.

* Destructive commentary/communications made with the intent to disrupt or attack (Trolling). This applies to any communications within this community, whether in the forums or PM.

* Advertising or linking to any publications and/or web sites that are sexually explicit , and/or pornographic in nature.

Violations:

Members that violate the rules above will be notified by a member of the Handpan.org team. Warnings will be noted in the member's record. Continual violation of the rules will result in a temporary ban. Habitual rule violations can result in a permanent ban.



Conduct - Zero Tolerance ;
Handpan.org maintains a Zero Tolerance on certain behaviors within the community. These include, but are not limited to the following.

* Any threats of physical harm, property damage or acts of violence toward another individual, or group of individuals.

* Intentional practices that affect the normal operations of the community (Admins will take whatever steps are necessary to restore service).

* Any member found to be impersonating a moderator or Admin of Handpan.org will have his/her membership revoked.

Members/Users found practicing these behaviors will immediately have their membership revoked, and access to the community permanently blocked from the community including any duplicate accounts for the same person. HandPan.org considers this information private and confidential. However, there may be certain situations that necessitate otherwise. The appropriate legal authorities will be contacted, and if appropriate charges may be filed.



Just for starters......

Haha, seems to me that somebody has been at the cookie jar himself. lol

[levinson.victor]

Hi all,

Just a quick note to say that i am now getting very tired and bored of this tit for tat Bull SH%T that is going on within these pages, even to the point that i have felt embarressed to be an admin of these pages when reading through some posts. This community used to be one of support and friendship NO matter what your standing point was. I now think people forget that we all come to these creations with different standing points, and that there are real people behind the posts.

If being an admin means i have to read through it all and have my heart blackened with all this negativity then maybe im not suited anymore

So I will leave these pages for you all and i shall just keep the music live and leave the endless discussions to others.

Panart are panart, pantheon are pantheon, bellart is bellart and i am Rob, all of which are happy in themselves, and i am happy to leave it that way.

Rx

Wake up, people. I think Rob is not talking about somebody coming from the side. he is talking about...YOU! the regular members of the forum! atleast that's the way i see it, i could be wrong though.

[musicaldomes]

Well Rob, if you're coming to the Hangout in a couple of weeks I'd expect there to be at least 80 hugs ready and waiting for you.

[Badgerboy]

I hope Rob will be at hangOut or i've got a lot of work to do on my own... LOL