Lost: My Open Hearted Enthusiasm

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Re: Lost: My Open Hearted Enthusiasm

Postby DANR » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:53 pm

JoshTheCake wrote:So DANR,

Since you know how it feels to be panless and see others with multiple handpans, and you clearly expressed your feelings about that matter in your previous post...

Which handpan will you be passing on to a panless member?


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Re: Lost: My Open Hearted Enthusiasm

Postby JoshTheCake » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:37 pm

I'm not trying to ruin your happy day at all.

I am responding to YOUR words.

You were just complaining about people who had multiple pans while others had no pans. Now the tables have turned and you are the one with 2 pans.

I asked if you would be passing on one of your pans to a panless member and your response is irrelevant to the question.

I may be new to the forum, but I had a hang in my lap long before there was even a hang forum. You may have had to play on a lower quality hang, but some of us have had no handpan to play on at all.

I don't care what you do. As long as you are happy brother.
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Re: Lost: My Open Hearted Enthusiasm

Postby JoshTheCake » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:41 pm

Lino,

The beer is on me whether you have girlfriend issues or not. I have an open house, pool table, and a beer with your name on it. I read that you will be coming to Handpangea this year and I live 45 minutes away. You should swing by for a beer or 2. You can even crash here if you need a place to stay. The swimming pool should be nice and warm by then...

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Re: Lost: My Open Hearted Enthusiasm

Postby toddnmd » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:46 pm

DANR, Congrats on your luck!

I certainly didn't see the earlier post as "bitching."

Many of us who are fortunate enough to have a handpan, or more than one, got it/them at least partly by luck. Partly by dedicated obsession as well, but that's the way it goes. And everyone has a somewhat different path.

Even before reading your further explanation of the history of your Hang (which wasn't necessary), I was happy that you had won. And now I understand even more your background, and can imagine how much you appreciate the new Halo. Enjoy!
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Re: Lost: My Open Hearted Enthusiasm

Postby JoshTheCake » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:13 pm

I would just like to point out that what I wrote about DANR's complaining aka ''bitching'' was before the winners were announced.

I would also like to make it clear that I am very Happy for DanR and Subliminator on their wins. I have never even won a scratch card or a slot machine, so I definitely didn't ever expect to win this lottery.

Everything that I have achieved and accomplished in life, I have earned through hard work and determination.
Not Luck.

It was DANR who was complaining about other people who had multiple handpans, not me.

I was just pointing out that now HE was the fortunate one with multiple handpans.

DANR,

I wish you many hours of peaceful pan playing on your new Halo.

Pantheon Steel,

Thank you very much for this amazing oppertunity. I have never met any of the three of you, and you offered me an oppertunity to partake in a very special lottery. I hope one day I am honored with the oppertunity to interact with one of your amazing instruments.


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Re: Lost: My Open Hearted Enthusiasm

Postby lino » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:37 pm

Hey Josh,

I was referring to the fact that you apparently can't keep yourself from asking "can I have it then?" as soon as someone admits to having a less than 100% blissful relationship with their handpan. You've done it twice in the same thread now. There's a fair amount of bonding to one's handpan(s), so your behavior reminds me of a guy whose reaction to his best buddy confiding in girlfriend trouble over a beer is "can I have her then?"

Not sensitive, to put it politely. Now I realize that such online perceptions are often way too one-dimensional, so I'll be happy to correct that by taking up your offer at Handpangea... we just won't talk about my Halo or my girlfriend, okay? ;)

While any handpan may look like heaven to the handpan-less, your view quickly becomes more differentiated once you become more familiar with them, and yourself through them, as handpan owners inevitably do. Again, it's like a relationship - what looks like paradise from a distance may turn out to be boring, too hot & humid, or full of mozzies once you've been there a while. That gorgeous blonde may turn out to be quite challenging to live with. It doesn't mean we're ready to let our handpans go though, just because they haven't magically turned our lives into eternal bliss.

Relax; cultivate patience and equanimity - your handpan will find you when it's time. Getting one by hounding less-than-blissful owners strikes me as bad juju. Sort of the ambulance chasing of the handpan world...
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Re: Lost: My Open Hearted Enthusiasm

Postby GotHang » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:03 pm

lino wrote:I was referring to the fact that you apparently can't keep yourself from asking "can I have it then?" as soon as someone admits to having a less than 100% blissful relationship with their handpan. You've done it twice in the same thread now. There's a fair amount of bonding to one's handpan(s), so your behavior reminds me of a guy whose reaction to his best buddy confiding in girlfriend trouble over a beer is "can I have her then?"

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Re: Lost: My Open Hearted Enthusiasm

Postby JoshTheCake » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:52 am

Lino,

I think you guys misunderstood me. I don't want any of these guys handpans.

Look at the first post of this thread or the name of this thread.

I was just trying to give the poster a different point of view. To understand that there are people willing to sacrifice quality just to be able to play a pan. Even though I'm not one of those people.

You see, it's like you said yourself. There are those people who will chase the blonde for weeks, months, even years. Then when they get her, they find something wrong with her. Maybe nothing was wrong with her. Nobody I've ever met has turned out to be perfect. But if you always find something wrong or you think the grass is always greener on the other side... Well then you really need to come for a visit. I guarantee you I have the greenest grass... :)

So let me clarify one more time for those who still don't understand how to read between the lines...

I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings. I don't want you to give me or anyone else your pan DANR. This thread was about someone who lost the thrill of playing. I thought I might be able to help him find it by letting him know that he should be grateful to have a handpan, (even if it is not the best sounding one on the market). How this thread became about attacking me for pointing out the less than grateful, I still don't understand...
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Re: Lost: My Open Hearted Enthusiasm

Postby lino » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:11 pm

Josh,

I'm glad you've spelled out clearly now what you really wanted to say. There are so many clues we use in real life to judge what is actually meant - body language, tone of voice, facial expressions, your knowledge of the person - that are absent here, it's so easy to be misunderstood. Happens again and again here, causing suffering... :(

So cheers Josh - now let's adjourn for that beer at Handpangea! :D
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Re: Lost: My Open Hearted Enthusiasm

Postby rptalk2me » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:19 pm

GotHang -

It is only temporary. The feelings and creativity sometime flow and ebb. Stay away from the forum and keep your hands off of the steel for a few weeks, if you dare. I know. This seems cruel and unusual to the handpans as they crave the touch of human flesh upon their bodies. After all, your waning interest is no fault of theirs. Trust me, the thrill will return for all.

btw - Great thread!
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